Agenda and draft minutes

Planning Committee - Wednesday, 8th January, 2014 2.00 pm

Venue: Council Chamber - The Guildhall, Portsmouth. View directions

Contact: Lucy Wingham 023 9283 4662  Email: lucy.wingham@portsmouthcc.gov.uk

Items
No. Item

1.

Apologies

Minutes:

Apologies for absence were received from Councillor Frank Jonas. His standing deputy, Councillor Luke Stubbs was in attendance.

2.

Declaration of Members' Interests

Minutes:

Councillor Ken Ellcome declared a personal but non-prejudicial interest relating to items 2 and 3 in the applications list - Annesley House, Queens Crescent, Southsea - in that he knows the applicant, Mr Charlie Stunell because they had worked together.

 

Councillor David Fuller declared a personal but non-prejudicial interest relating to item 1 in the applications list - 287 New Road, Portsmouth - in that he had spoken with the applicant but only to advise them to speak with the planning officer. He had also spoken with an objector but had suggested they contact the planning department. He had not made any comments relating to the application.

3.

Minutes of the Planning Committee meeting held on 4 December 2013 pdf icon PDF 213 KB

The minutes of the Planning Committee meeting held on 4 December 2013 are attached.

 

RECOMMENDED that the minutes of the Planning Committee held on 4 December 2013 be agreed and signed by the chair as a correct record.

Minutes:

(TAKE IN MINUTES)

 

Councillor Darron Phillips wished to make an amendment to minute 147 - 156, 158 and land to rear of 154-172 Southampton Road, Portsmouth - in that members had moved and voted on the removal of the right hand turn but this had not been reflected within the minutes. It was agreed that an amendment be made accordingly.

 

RESOLVED that the minutes of the meeting of the Planning Committee held on 4 December 2013 be agreed and signed by the chair as a correct record subject to the amendment above.

4.

Updates provided by the City Development Manager on previous planning applications

Minutes:

There were no updates.

5.

Planning appeal decision at Petrol Station, Holbrook Road, Portsmouth pdf icon PDF 154 KB

Purpose

To advise the committee of the outcome of the appeal that was allowed.

 

RECOMMENDED that the report be noted.

 

A report by the City Development Manager is attached.

 

 

Planning applications

Minutes:

(TAKE IN REPORT BY THE CITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER)

 

RESOLVED that the report be noted.

 

Planning applications (AI 6)

 

(TAKE IN REPORT BY THE CITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER)

6.

13/01176/PLAREG - 287 New Road, Portsmouth (Report item 1) pdf icon PDF 210 KB

Retrospective application for change of use from dwellinghouse to mixed use of dwellinghouse and dog boarding business.

 

 

Minutes:

The Planning Officer reported that this application seeks retrospective planning permission for the use of part of the dwelling for dog boarding. The business has two elements, day time boarding (day care) and overnight boarding.

 

The City Development Manager reported in the supplementary matters list that six further letters of support had been received from residents in the city, current and intended customers of the dog boarding business and from the applicant's daughter.

 

A deputation was heard from Ms B Murphy, objecting to the application, who included the following points in her representations;

·         Live next door to the premises;

·         Dogs bark, whine and howl throughout the day;

·         There was a 2-week period when 2 dogs were unwell and cried all day;

·         Had up to 12 dogs in the garden at one time;

·         Noise even at night time from a plastic holder attached to the railings which bangs against the railings, especially in the wind;

·         Premises are open all year round;

·         They don't check on the dogs;

·         One dog came into my garden, through the conservatory and into my home which was very frightening;

·         One weekend a dog escaped which had no lead. It took them 15minutes to catch it;

·         The support for this application is huge and that shows how many people use it;

·         I feel intimidated and uncomfortable outside of my property;

·         The owners are still posting unkind comments about me on their Facebook page even though the Police and the Anti-Social Behaviour Unit have advised them not to;

·         Am worried about repercussions from this;

·         Police have told me to install CCTV and to keep collecting evidence;

·         You cannot stop a dog from barking;

·         Not against the business but do object to the constant noise and disturbance and just want to have my life back.

 

Deputations were also heard from Mr Millard (in support) and Mrs Standen (the applicant). Mr Millard included the following points in his representations;

·         Am a customer of the premises;

·         Agree that dogs do bark;

·         Don't believe enough mediation has taken place;

·         There is a need for this service;

·         Do help to walk the dogs occasionally.

 

Mrs Standen included the following points in her representations;

·         Have been treated unfairly and not offered mediation;

·         Feel we've been victimised;

·         Do dog grooming from my son's place;

·         Have downsized our business and couldn't afford the mortgage last month;

·         Always tried to be a good neighbour;

·         Been unfairly treated by the planning department;

·         Will do anything to keep the business open;

·         Took the doorbell off as someone kept ringing the bell and starting the dogs off;

·         Dogs do not bark at night as I sleep downstairs with them;

·         I am too frightened to go out now as people take photos of me;

·         Have tried everything to prevent noise to the neighbour, including anti bark devices, insulation, removing the doorbell;

·         Have been so unfairly treated all because my neighbour works for the council;

·         My husband is unwell and can no longer work.

 

A deputation was also heard from Councillor Jason  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.

7.

13/01182/HOU - Annesley House, Queens Crescent, Southsea (Report item 2)

Installation of double access gates including construction of new gate pier and formation of dropped kerb to provide vehicular access (after removal of part of existing wall/pier).

 

 

Minutes:

This application was brought to the committee at the request of Councillor Rob Wood.

 

The City Development Manager reported in the supplementary matters list that objections had been received from Councillor Wood and seven local residents regarding the safety of the proposed access, its proximity to a blind bend and increased danger to road users and pedestrians, especially children. A letter of support had been received from a Transport Consultant.

 

The submission of support had been considered by the Highway Engineer who had advised that its content does not justify allowing the access with poor visibility and maintains their objection to the proposal on highway safety grounds.

 

A deputation was heard from Mr Stunell, the applicant, who included the following points in his representations;

·         Referred to the letter of support from a friend and highway engineer;

·         Permission was granted to No 1 Sussex Terrace for an access and vehicles reverse onto the highway;

·         Permission was also granted to No 6 Sussex Terrace to allow vehicles to reverse onto the highway;

·         How can it be acceptable for one and not another?

·         Undertook a traffic survey myself - 28 vehicles between 0800 and 0900 - peak time;

·         Vehicles are only travelling at 10mph;

·         Afternoon peak time was less than the morning peak;

·         Could change the gates to wrought iron;

·         Have lived in this property for 20years and the access will be for my benefit.

 

A deputation was also heard from ward Councillor Rob Wood who included the following points in his representations;

·         Not acceptable for people to be put in danger;

·         Children are going to and from school every day;

·         Increasing the chance of an accidents as the proposed entrance is right on the bend;

·         St Thomas ward councillors were not notified of the application initially;

·         Permission was granted to convert the property into two dwellings with a shared access;

·         The issue of a separate access was withdrawn from the previous application as they knew permission would not be granted for an access onto Sussex Terrace;

·         Residents in Sussex Terrace are concerned about the danger;

·         Applicant agreed to use shared driveway and should continue to do so.

 

Members' questions

Members sought clarification as to whether any accidents had been recorded in Sussex Terrace and why No 1 Sussex Terrace had been granted permission for an access which meant that vehicles had to reverse onto the highway.

 

The Highways Engineer explained that permission had been granted for an access with the difference being that the entrance is much wider so visibility is better and there is adequate room on site for a vehicle to turn.

 

Members' comments

Members were mixed in their views in that some members felt that the safety risk in Sussex Terrace to pedestrians outweighed the personal benefit to the applicant to have their own access. Other members felt that Sussex Terrace is not a main thoroughfare and that due to the nature of the road drivers tend to drive slower and with more caution and therefore felt that  ...  view the full minutes text for item 7.

8.

13/01183/LBC - Annesley House, Queens Crescent, Southsea (Report item 3)

External alterations to allow the installation of double access gates including construction of new gate pier and formation of dropped kerb to provide vehicular access (after removal of part of existing wall/pier).

 

 

Minutes:

This application was brought to the committee at the request of Councillor Rob Wood.

 

The City Development Manager reported in the supplementary matters list that objections had been received from the occupiers of six neighbouring properties regarding the safety of the proposed access, its proximity to a blind bend and increased danger to road users and pedestrians, especially children.

 

The objections relate to highway safety matters which fall outside of the scope of this application for Listed Building Consent.

 

RESOLVED that conditional consent be granted subject to the conditions outlined within the City Development Managers report.

9.

13/01179/FUL - 130-136 Elm Grove, Southsea (Report item 4)

Conversion of existing offices and health drop-in centre (D1) to form halls of residence within Class C1 (comprising 53 study bedrooms arranged as 13 cluster flats); alterations to external glazing and cladding, construction of cycle and bin stores with associated landscaping (resubmission of 13/00442/FUL).

 

 

Minutes:

The City Development Manager reported that in July 2013 the Planning Committee refused permission for the conversion of the building to a student halls of residence by reason of its over-intensive nature, would give rise to an unacceptable level of noise and disturbance harmful to the residential amenities of the occupiers of neighbouring residential properties. In July 2013 it was also considered that the proposed alterations to the building would also fail to complement or enhance the appearance of the existing building, and failed to make adequate provision for the storage of cycles and refuse/recyclable storage.

 

The City Development Manager reported in the supplementary matters list that the applicant had submitted a draft planning obligation, the terms of which are considered acceptable. The applicant had advised that a completed undertaking would be submitted promptly after a positive resolution by the committee.

 

A deputation was heard from Ms Stewart, objecting to the proposal, who included the following points in her representations;

·         Live in Stafford Road;

·         Re-submission completely disregards the previous objections;

·         Proposal represents an inappropriate location;

·         Elm Grove library was converted into university accommodation and there is constant anti-social behaviour associated with it;

·         Are proposing the same high density without addressing residential amenity issues;

·         Environmental Health recommend non-opening windows;

·         There is no on site management;

·         There is no change to the 53 student rooms;

·         This will create a massive imbalance and is not part of the 'city campus';

·         Should have fixed shut, frosted windows;

·         This would provide residents with a degree of privacy;

·         Will allow 24-7 access to the rear of the property;

·         There is inadequate car parking provision;

·         Proposal smacks of development greed;

·         Profit before people by cramming them in;

·         Fails to satisfy conservation area and residential amenity.

 

A deputation was also heard from Mr Upton, on behalf of the applicants, who included the following points in his representations;

·         Environmental Health had recommended mechanical vents for the protection of the occupiers of the building from noise from the adjacent pub and road;

·         Car parking and overlooking were not reasons for the previous refusal;

·         Room numbers have been reduced and are a standard size;

·         Timber cladding softens the appearance and fits in with the University accommodation across the road, and looks better than what is there now;

·         There are four spaces for staff and deliveries;

·         The spaces are only to be used for drop off/pick up times at the start and end of term;

·         A tenant management plan will be implemented;

·         This has been implemented across the road and since then there have been no complaints;

·         There is pressure to convert family homes into student accommodation.

 

A deputation was also heard from Councillor Jason Fazackarley, objecting to the application as the cabinet portfolio holder for Traffic and Transportation, who included the following points in his representations;

·         Fundamental proposals have not changed;

·         Applicant will impose a tenancy agreement to restrict vehicle use;

·         This will mean students cannot park within 3km of the building - who will enforce this?

·         This is un-workable;

·         Cannot  ...  view the full minutes text for item 9.

10.

13/01169/FUL - 39 Palmerston Road, Southsea (Report item 5)

Change of use from retail use (Class A1) to coffee shop (mixed use A1/A3); installation of new shopfront and outdoor seating area.

 

 

Minutes:

The City Development Manager reported in the supplementary matters list that an additional objection had been received on the grounds that there is no need for a further coffee shop, there are too many already and that it will impact on the flower stall which operates to the front of the adjacent unit.

 

A deputation was heard from Mr Gooch, the applicants agent, who included the following points in his representations;

·         Accept all of the proposed conditions;

·         The design will make a positive improvement within the shopping centre;

·         Objections seem to relate to it being a coffee shop;

·         External seating is a matter for the highway authority and have submitted an application;

·         Seating has been referred to as a public safety issue but other establishments have outside seating;

·         Will work alongside the flower seller.

 

A deputation was also heard from ward Councillor Peter Eddis, commenting on the application, who included the following points in his representations;

·         The premises are technically vacant on the ground floor;

·         The previous tenant - The Discount Store - had his lease terminated even though he agreed to pay an increase in rent;

·         Understand that the owners wanted a change of use;

·         There is not a single empty unit in Palmerston Road which is good but sad that a retail unit is going to be replaced by a coffee shop;

·         Cannot see why the flower seller cannot continue to sell as he has an amenity licence;

·         Feel it would be in applicant's interest to accommodate the flower seller;

·         Outside seating is not a planning consideration;

·         Please restrict this use to the applicant and this use only.

 

A deputation was also heard from ward Councillor Michael Andrewes, objecting to the application, who included the following points in his representations;

·         There does need to be retail units for people to visit a shopping centre rather than having all coffee shops;

·         Could it be conditioned to be A1 use only and personal to the applicant?

 

The City Development Manager explained to the committee that there would be no planning justification to personalise the permission in this instance.

 

Members' comments

Members were surprised to see that someone would want to open up another coffee shop within the Palmerston Road shopping precinct but accepted that it seems to be 'the culture' and that coffee shops are popular.

 

RESOLVED that conditional permission be granted subject to the conditions outlined within the City Development Managers report.